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Does "Evil" Exist?

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MonkeyF0cker
Care to cite a genocide which falls under this category?
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They all do, Monkay. Hitler was mostly preoccupied with eugenics ("racial hygiene") in getting rid of Jews - The Tutsi and Hutu basically hated each other based on phenotypes (Tutsis look more "European"), etc. Political leaders could've simply divided the population in "us and them" and called it a day - call it mutually beneficial ethnic cleansing (cause you obviously can't seem to get along). But no, they went that extra step and committed resources to the killing of the Other, simply because it is the Other.

The reasonable way to prosper as a group is through productive means - out-perform the Other and it'll disappear by itself.


War/systematic murder that's not meant to defend assets or resources = evil. We have an international tribunal that agrees. It's a collection of people from wildly different social backgrounds.
 
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They all do, Monkay. Hitler was mostly preoccupied with eugenics ("racial hygiene") in getting rid of Jews - The Tutsi and Hutu basically hated each other based on phenotypes (Tutsis look more "European"), etc. Political leaders could've simply divided the population in "us and them" and called it a day - call it mutually beneficial ethnic cleansing (cause you obviously can't seem to get along). But no, they went that extra step and committed resources to the killing of the Other, simply because it is the Other.

The reasonable way to prosper as a group is through productive means - out-perform the Other and it'll disappear by itself.


War/systematic murder that's not meant to defend assets or resources = evil. We have an international tribunal that agrees. It's a collection of people from wildly different social backgrounds.
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Hitler thought he was doing the world a favor with his eugenics program. The Hutus were of the belief that they would be enslaved by the Tutsis. There's far more to it then simply labeling it evil.
 
What it boils down to is how hung someone is. A hung dude walking around with a pulsating cock all day possesses an extreme amount of evil, while an Asian American wants nothing more than to enjoy his day and masturbate to re-runs of Herman's Head or Mr. Belvedere while laughing, crying, or a combination of the two. Under this theory, women would not be 'good' or 'evil' but an enigma created by their inability to have a hung cock. I mean, if you have a huge dong in your face it does not mean you are gay if you don't let it go to waste, correct?
 
MonkeyF0cker
Hitler thought he was doing the world a favor with his eugenics program. The Hutus were of the belief that they would be enslaved by the Tutsis. There's far more to it then simply labeling it evil.
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Fo sho. I don't deny that I'm being very liberal with my interpretation of "evil", but if you ask me to point towards something "evil", this is the closest I can find.

That guy who made a belt out of nipples is just a sicko.
 
AidsAwareness
What it boils down to is how hung someone is. A hung dude walking around with a pulsating cock all day possesses an extreme amount of evil, while an Asian American wants nothing more than to enjoy his day and masturbate to re-runs of Herman's Head or Mr. Belvedere while laughing, crying, or a combination of the two. Under this theory, women would not be 'good' or 'evil' but an enigma created by their inability to have a hung cock. I mean, if you have a huge dong in your face it does not mean you are gay if you don't let it go to waste, correct?
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MonkeyF0cker
The Bush thing is simply an example of self interest as a tool for labeling some act or idea that goes against it as evil. The entire idea of evil comes down to artificial societal rules. It's all based on a subjective perception. Slavery is a good example of how societal laws effect the perception of morality and the concept of "evil." It was perfectly acceptable to beat, kill, or rape slaves. That has all changed in today's world and rightfully so. However, it symbolizes how the cultural environment and laws of the land dictate morality. It's not some ingrained struggle from some higher being that we contend with. The idea of evil is our own creation as it relates to the rules of our society. Yet, its conception comes as a principle of religious doctrine and those that choose to still buy into the mandates of organized religion are compelled to continue to believe that it is a legitimate force of nature. Evil then simply becomes a lazy adjective. It is a word that ubiquitously describes many things yet fails to identify the true nature and intentions of any act or being.
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I agree with most of this.
However, even though everybody acts on motives doesn't mean all motives are equally righteous. Doesn't have to do with religion. It more has to do with what you're taught as a kid. Treat others with respect etc. I think most people are in agreement of basic principles. It's how those principles are worked out in various situations that leads to disagreement.
 
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I agree with most of this.
However, even though everybody acts on motives doesn't mean all motives are equally righteous. Doesn't have to do with religion. It more has to do with what you're taught as a kid. Treat others with respect etc. I think most people are in agreement of basic principles. It's how those principles are worked out in various situations that leads to disagreement.
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I contend that it very much has to do with religion. The tenets of our morality and social code are derived from religious doctrine. Slavery was justified by Biblical passages. Countries where women don't have equal rights (such as Islamic states like Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.) are labeled as evil when they simply have a different moral code. People adapt and conform to their environment. If the laws were different, what is considered righteous and what is considered evil would also change. It just so happens that our laws and Christian foundations attempt to promote harmony. Had our laws been written by Stirnerite egoists, our collective morality would certainly be different.
 
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