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I would rather have sex with a fat, smelly woman than look at Tim Tebow's stupid face

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Dunder
For everyone else, referencing other people's beliefs as "fairy tales" is not really a good idea unless you have the right answers yourself. There may be ample evidence to support evolution on earth and there is also, I believe, sufficient information available to conclude that our universe came about through a "big bang". The likelihood however that gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces being exactly as they are by chance (the only way a universe remotely like this could be formed) are so slim that they are as good as negligible.
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Matt Rain
I didn't dare comment on that part of Dunder's post cause I'm a near-total science boob, but I would like to understand the reason behind the rolling on the floor.
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who told him that the "chances" of forces being the way they are is negligible? his preacher?

the guy clearly has no concept of the basis behind science. this is funny to me.
 
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As a Christian, Tebow feels an obligation to witness and to give it up to God when he performs well. Why does this bother people so much?
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Why doesn't he do the opposite when he doesn't perform well?

I knew a infertility doctor a while ago. He told me a story that stuck with me. Christian couples that we're having a hard time getting pregnant would come and see him. He said, this happened, not often, but often enough for him notice. Eventually, when they would conceive and have a baby, they would praise the lord for giving them a child. This ticked him off royally. He never did, but wanted to say, "Do you know how long I had to go to medical school? Do you understand what kind of science and research has gone into this process for you two to have this baby right now? The struggle, the time, the effort human beings have put in to get you this baby from god?"

On my side of the fence it feels like faith has a nonchalant way of glossing over the depth, struggle and awesomeness of humanity by pointing to the sky and saying, "praise the lord".

And as for this....
Cougar Bait
For those that believe in nothing, congratulations.I am sure it was exhausting getting to this point.
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Kind of yeah. I personally don't believe in nothing but I do feel that part of my (and maybe others) fierce reaction to "faith" is that I'm pissed that I don't have the ability to have it. Would I like to have a deep personal relationship with god. Yes. Would it be comforting to really know that when I die there's going to be a great place that I get to go and see all of my friends and family that I've lost. Hell yes.

But I can't. It has been exhausting thinking and exploring and coming to conclusions. I get pissed because sometimes I feel like Christians I know haven't gone through that process and haven't felt the need to. To me, this just doesn't compute.

I'm not saying I'm not wrong. Or that I'm trying to minimize anyone else's struggles, I'm just saying that I have a hard time seeing it.
 
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Mrs. X
It has been exhausting thinking and exploring and coming to conclusions. I get pissed because sometimes I feel like Christians I know haven't gone through that process and haven't felt the need to. To me, this just doesn't compute.
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Yes. It is also very troubling to see people (especially in our government) reduce human issues to those of good versus evil. People have motivations for their actions generally. Why is one man's war rationalized as fighting evil when their very philosophy tells them that killing is a sin? It cannot be reduced to such simple terms, but people of faith tend to do so. It is also extremely infuriating when religion steps in the way of scientific thought and medicine. Take stem cell research for example. There is a very promising field that could potentially save millions of lives, but religion steps in the way of progress OF SAVING LIVES. How does that make sense to people? Then you have people saying that there's no way global warming could exist because God would never let that happen to the world and humanity. These things are extremely troubling to me.
 
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here is what I am seeing. Several of you are attempting to push your beliefs on me all the while bitching about people doing the same to you. I am not and will not argue religion because religion has nothing to do with my relationship with God. I like to think I am a very tolerant person but I've had enoguh. You can't accept me as I am then that is your problem. Stop trying to bully your beliefs onto me. I have stated ad nausiem that there is nothing you can say or do that will have any influence on me other that make me stop posting here. All I asked was for some respect like the way I have always done for you and your beliefs. If you don't want people of faith to post here please, for the love of cheese, put a sticky at the top. Now I will continue to read your post and I will talk about you behind your back on them but for the most part, I am so done with you.


Congrats...it really takes a lot to piss me off and keep me pissed off. I hope you are proud of that and the fact that you have been incredibly insulting and demeaning.
 
Okay, let's consider what has been said. Posters are speaking their minds and it is resulting in some inflamed reactions. This was EXACTLY my point in post 207. But since no one is apparently listening I guess go ahead and continue to piss each other off.
 
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