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idk, but a school of 8 year olds? that's like a whole new type of crazy. Random shooting is one thing, but targeting children specifically could be a new disease we haven't discovered yet.
... I know some of those kids are assholes, but from an adult perspective common.
 
I don't think it's a matter of putting a value on a life. Children are thought of as being innocent and untouched by much of the evils that we see as adults. It could be a matter of life lived, growth potential, futures unrealized. I'm not sure of what kind of "value" we can put on a life.
 
description of the shooter

"Adam Lanza has been a weird kid since we were five years old," wrote aneighbor and former classmate Timothy Dalton on Twitter. "As horrible as this was, I can't say I am surprised."

In school, Lanza carried a black briefcase and spoke little. Every day, he wore a sort of uniform: khakis and a shirt buttoned up to the neck, with pens lined up in his shirt pocket.

A former classmate in his 10th grade honors English class, Olivia DeVivo, says he "was always very nervous and socially awkward."

She told ABC News that "he didn't really want to be spoken to" and that when teachers would call on him "it appeared physically difficult for him to speak."

Lanza avoided public attention and had few, if any, friends. He liked to sit near the door of the classroom to make a quick exit.

He even managed to avoid having his picture in his high school yearbook. Instead of his portrait, the space reserved for Adam Lanza says "Camera Shy." And unlike most in his age group, he seems to have left little imprint on the internet – no Facebook page, no Twitter account.
 
I think the crux of the issue is that he specifically targeted those children. They weren't bystanders in a feud that just happened to end up harmed (although, in a way, they were). They were the intended, yet innocent, targets of those bullets, regardless of how unfair and unjust it was.
 
Yes he targeted those children as the Aurora guy target those patrons, whoever they would be. Yet, the outcry seems to be so much more for a load of children, the emotional capital being "spent" today seems much greater, the response more strict and swifter. Perhaps it is impossible to view each in isolation or maybe this is a bad example of the question i have in my head.

It just seem that if someone smothers his spouse its tragic but not nearly AS tragic as when someone smothers his newborn. This shooting seems to be a coralary to that. I'm not saying tradegdy is a limited resource that shouldn't be applied here, just asking tough questions.
 
Matty
I'd like to know how he got the guns to begin with. If I had guns at home they'd be protected by a fingerprint safe or something.
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They were his mother's guns, and they were registered. Lets remember this was a woman with what many are calling an "autistic-like" child although he went to school so he must have been highly functioning if that's the case. So they were likely for her own protection, not sure on her history but she was married at one point, maybe there was some abuse there, no way to know.

Anyway, I really do think we would all agree that what we have now is not working. These keep happening and something should be done to quell that. Whatever measures make it harder to own a gun should be taken. If that means that because you are on anti-depressants or someone in your immediate family is then that means you can not own a firearm, I think that's a worthwhile road to pursue. There are many people that are not allowed to own guns right now.

Go read the legislation from 1968. Seems to me it's time to add anti-depressants to the list of substance abuse.
 
Teela
I don't think it's a matter of putting a value on a life. Children are thought of as being innocent and untouched by much of the evils that we see as adults. It could be a matter of life lived, growth potential, futures unrealized. I'm not sure of what kind of "value" we can put on a life.
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Hey don't call anything evil around here Teela, they'll brand you a religious nut, even though the two things have little to nothing to do with one another.

Evil is commonly associated with conscious and deliberate wrongdoing, discrimination designed to harm others, humiliation of people designed to diminish their psychological well-being and dignity, destructiveness, motives of causing pain or suffering for selfish or malicious intentions, and acts of unnecessary or indiscriminate violence.

See, nothing in there about religion.
 
Teela
I think the crux of the issue is that he specifically targeted those children. They weren't bystanders in a feud that just happened to end up harmed (although, in a way, they were). They were the intended, yet innocent, targets of those bullets, regardless of how unfair and unjust it was.
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I think they were. Remember, he was seeking out his mother. Her students just happened to be innocent victims of a senseless crime.
 
Yeah something ticked him off at home where he killed his mom. Maybe she told him he was a bum and needed to go to college like his brother and he snapped and killed her and then he went to the school to kill the teachers and in the process he snapped more because they were protecting the kids and he killed the kids too. In any case he was a time bomb.
 
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And?

Did I say somewhere in there that all children do not have that right? :ouch:
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No, but you did say that he must be highly functioning in order to be going to school. I don't think that most people realize that special education has changed quite a bit over the last couple of decades. A child doesn't need to be high functioning to be in a general education classroom for most of the day.


I can be called a religious nut - I'm probably the most religious/spiritual person on here. I think most know that about me. However, I choose not to get involved in discussions about religion or my personal beliefs on here (or in general).
 
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